t   |------oooo------|----------------|T   |------------oooo|----------------|S   |oooo------------|----------------|F   |----------------|--oooo----------|B   |----o-----o-----|o-----o---------|B2  |-----o-----o----|-o-----o--------|    (1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + |1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + )Speed it up to this:t   |------oooo--------------|----...T   |------------oooo--------|----...S   |oooo--------------------|F---...F   |------------------oooo--|----...B   |----o-----o-----o-----o-|----...B2  |-----o-----o-----o-----o|----...    (1tl+tl2tl+tl3tl+tl4tl+tl|1 + 2...)Those two above:  Mike Portnoy calls these 4-2 beats (four on the drums, two on the bass drum.Then if you can, speed it up to this:t   |--------oooooo------------------|T   |----------------oooooo----------|S   |oooooo--------------------------|F   |------------------------oooooo--|B   |------o-------o-------o-------o-|B2  |-------o-------o-------o-------o|    (1   +   2   +   3   +   4   +   )Then you can try other combinations like 2-2-2:S   |oo--oo--oo--oo------------------|B   |--o---o---o---o-----------------|B2  |---o---o---o---o----------------|    (1   +   2   +   3   +   4   +   )And here\'s one of my own:t   |--------oo----------------------|T   |----------------oo--------------|S   |oo--------------------------o-o-|F   |------------------------oo------|B   |--o---o---o---o---o---o---o-----|B2  |---o---o---o---o---o---o---o----|    (1   +   2   +   3   +   4   +   )Those are basically flams with the hands and feet except a little more spaced out.Here are some more:S   |o---o---o---o---o---o---o---o---|  A cool opening for a song.F   |-o---o---o---o---o---o---o---o--|B   |--o---o---o---o---o---o---o---o-|B2  |---o---o---o---o---o---o---o---o|    (1   +   2   +   3   +   4   +   )t   |-o-o---o-o---o-o---o-o----------|  This one can be found somewhere in ScenesS   |o-o---o-o---o-o---o-o---o-o-o-o-|  from a Memory by Dream Theater.B   |----o-----o-----o-----o---------|B2  |-----o-----o-----o-----o--------|    (1   +   2   +   3   +   4   +   )Try out your own patterns, it sounds really cool.Dean [email protected]